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PD Moderator	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 8:36:35 AM Ignore PD Report Abuse I didn't know how people in Louisiana and Florida felt about the Gulf spill. Its something you can't feel until it happens close to you, and this time, it did. The oil spill in Marshall, Michigan is just a couple hours from me- and more significantly- the spill could impact Lake Michigan. Although no one wants to think about it or says its possible, the breaches that have already taken place suggest that the pipeline owner, Enbridge, has very little control and isn't doing enough to stop the slick from moving down the Kalamazoo River. Fortunately, or unfortunately, lessons have already been learned via the Gulf spill. Almost immediately, the State of Michigan got the EPA, Coast Guard, and other federal and state agencies... Visit GasBuddy Blog for full article

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I didn't know how people in Louisiana and Florida felt about the Gulf spill. Its something you can't feel until it happens close to you, and this time, it did.

The oil spill in Marshall, Michigan is just a couple hours from me- and more significantly- the spill could impact Lake Michigan. Although no one wants to think about it or says its possible, the breaches that have already taken place suggest that the pipeline owner, Enbridge, has very little control and isn't doing enough to stop the slick from moving down the Kalamazoo River.

Fortunately, or unfortunately, lessons have already been learned via the Gulf spill. Almost immediately, the State of Michigan got the EPA, Coast Guard, and other federal and state agencies...

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sweeteddy All-Star Author Indianapolis Posts:654 Points:911,205 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 10:57:33 AM Ignore sweeteddy Report Abuse very sad
six_ball_man Champion Author Rochester Posts:3,782 Points:491,950 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 1:12:34 AM Ignore six_ball_man Report Abuse Amazing that this story generates 75% partisan politics responses. Howsanabout an engineering response...?
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:10,754 Points:630,425 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 6:33:40 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse oh yea.. and here people were saying, let's pull another pipeline down from Canada. Here's exactly what the "liberal environs" were saying would happen. Alas, I rest my case.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:10,754 Points:630,425 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 6:30:47 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Enorms: unfortunately, I don't think they were.
ENORMS Champion Author Colorado Posts:2,158 Points:698,850 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 4:24:36 AM Ignore ENORMS Report Abuse Hopefully lessons were learned from the Gulf spill!
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:10,754 Points:630,425 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 3:02:59 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse outlaw: probably more like "it's suddenly not being swept under the rug"
1fulltank Champion Author Buffalo Posts:2,995 Points:578,925 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:42:25 AM Ignore 1fulltank Report Abuse And many rely on Michigan's FRESH water.
outlaw329 Champion Author Austin Posts:2,791 Points:462,145 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:40:17 AM Ignore outlaw329 Report Abuse All of a sudden spills everywhere.
gougenator Champion Author Dallas Posts:22,030 Points:2,314,030 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:39:40 AM Ignore gougenator Report Abuse Lake Oiligan! o well fine em! ,give them a slap on the wrist ,may thier CEO step down & take his "$$million" severance pay as his former company baste in 1B profits! (thats a "B" as in BILLION) o boy whats this world come to!
twobroke61 Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,443 Points:620,810 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:32:52 AM Ignore twobroke61 Report Abuse makes one wonder why so many spill all of a sudden maybe we have a terriost amoungst us
hwnguy Champion Author Honolulu Posts:2,980 Points:646,760 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:32:05 AM Ignore hwnguy Report Abuse More oil leaking.
niceguytx Champion Author Houston Posts:8,953 Points:1,747,775 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:28:10 AM Ignore niceguytx Report Abuse The government needs to make them put aside a large sum of money.
wegman Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,913 Points:1,126,780 Joined:Jun 2001	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:26:43 AM Ignore wegman Report Abuse 1) Sounds like panic mongering 2) This company is run by morons. Look at BP's image. There has to be something to learn from previous spills and there is technology to contain this. Buy something (even have the state do it and sue the company) and contain the oil.
Hi1 All-Star Author Ontario Posts:546 Points:874,710 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:59:32 AM Ignore Hi1 Report Abuse THEY BETTER MOVE QUICKLY ON THIS ONE AND TRY TO SAVE ARE WATER SUPPLY
EXTREMESNOW Champion Author Medford Posts:4,516 Points:950,810 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:52:20 AM Ignore EXTREMESNOW Report Abuse There seems to be more and more mishaps of late. Wondering if someone is pushing an AGENDA!
BM4225 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:5,469 Points:1,176,195 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:51:31 AM Ignore BM4225 Report Abuse Don't worru Pelosi, and Reed, with their mouth piece Obama will declare that all pipelines must be shut down for inspection. That will for sure help the economy.
ED6 Champion Author Riverside Posts:5,149 Points:1,000,710 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:51:21 AM Ignore ED6 Report Abuse At least something good come out from the Gulf oil spill.
georgeo Champion Author California Posts:2,506 Points:102,160 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:51:06 AM Ignore georgeo Report Abuse There should be penalties for negligence in not maintaining the oil line. This is like knowingly putting a Bus on the highway with bad brakes.
TommyTraveler Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:3,686 Points:721,055 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:44:57 AM Ignore TommyTraveler Report Abuse There will always be this risk.
dacofa All-Star Author Nevada Posts:772 Points:188,025 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:44:17 AM Ignore dacofa Report Abuse Maybe OBAMANATION needs to go up there and kick some A$$.
nurdco Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:3,816 Points:716,105 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:39:39 AM Ignore nurdco Report Abuse Canadian and US should fine the polluter to existence
jazzej All-Star Author Michigan Posts:968 Points:155,740 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:35:58 AM Ignore jazzej Report Abuse Exactly, SpruceGuse2 and findcheap. We need legislation on the books that will fine them right out of existence if they know of a problem that could lead to disaster, and they ignore it to keep stuffing their pockets. I'm sick of this greed with no conscience.
BobD2009 Champion Author Long Island Posts:1,917 Points:264,885 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:15:45 AM Ignore BobD2009 Report Abuse How come we never hag all these spills when Bush was president. I think Obama is a jinx.
findcheap Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,658 Points:1,032,715 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:12:34 AM Ignore findcheap Report Abuse despite the "lessons," you still hear the same garbage from so many on this site about how we need more drilling, need to throw out Pres. Obama, need more conservative tea party people, etc. Just sick people.
SpruceGuse2 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,883 Points:1,490,740 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:11:28 AM Ignore SpruceGuse2 Report Abuse A 50 year old pipeline is corroding away and the oil industry only cares about profits, the hell with the environment.........
panama303 Veteran Author Denver Posts:491 Points:198,990 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:05:36 AM Ignore panama303 Report Abuse yes. ditto paulg72
HA4CNN All-Star Author Toronto Posts:981 Points:594,390 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 12:05:13 AM Ignore HA4CNN Report Abuse When it comes to negligence the energy companies seem to rise to the occasion.
paulg72 Sophomore Author Boston Posts:156 Points:94,035 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:58:02 PM Ignore paulg72 Report Abuse I honestly don't care anymore I got other things to worry about like more taxes house payment etc.
EcoVore Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:2,123 Points:328,825 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:48:50 PM Ignore EcoVore Report Abuse Remame the Michigan Rio de dino juice.
jackson661 Champion Author Columbus Posts:1,738 Points:573,840 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:47:16 PM Ignore jackson661 Report Abuse I hope they moved quickly on this one. This may risk our water supply...
Bleeder Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,921 Points:816,755 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:24:18 PM Ignore Bleeder Report Abuse At least they moved quickly on this one. Hopefully they can stop it fairly soon.
eromitlab Champion Author Huntsville Posts:4,008 Points:818,690 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:22:40 PM Ignore eromitlab Report Abuse Hey, what do you know, oil companies don't really know what to do to clean up their messes even when they aren't drilling in deep water.
rimpyCA Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:1,550 Points:325,325 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:22:23 PM Ignore rimpyCA Report Abuse is it again by BP
Lou08 All-Star Author California Posts:568 Points:132,960 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:22:08 PM Ignore Lou08 Report Abuse Conserve! Flash Pres.Obama just got off "VIEW" and will spring into action just as soon he gets the make-up off his face. Then you'll get change you asked for and transparency.
genef01 Champion Author Nashville Posts:2,168 Points:700,390 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:18:41 PM Ignore genef01 Report Abuse I thought BP was in the Gulf of Mexico. Didn't realize they were in this area also.
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:3,581 Points:795,390 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:18:35 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse lazy and stupid?
speedys Champion Author Utah Posts:2,091 Points:1,582,120 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:17:19 PM Ignore speedys Report Abuse Is ths contagious?
Quick68 Champion Author Columbus Posts:1,019 Points:246,450 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:16:14 PM Ignore Quick68 Report Abuse I didn't know that BP was in Michigan.
bobdec Champion Author Florida Posts:4,274 Points:837,675 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:13:36 PM Ignore bobdec Report Abuse Ig government did what they are supposed to due they would require more safety regulations, instead of sticking their noses where that have no right to be like healthcare
Lou08 All-Star Author California Posts:568 Points:132,960 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:08:50 PM Ignore Lou08 Report Abuse Conserve! Our PC politicians S.O.H. N.Pelosi is responsible and should be billed for clean-up (she and Hubie made millions on our dime.) Her and fellow "greenies" stop building of Atomic Power Plants. Pres.Obama needs to sign an executive order for all new federal vehicles to run on CNG which under our feet is more domestic energy than almost anywhere on Earth!!! It would take 5 years to turn things around but it would take that long just for them to get off their ass. Shame on them. Atomic Power Plants and CNG don't ever leak curd oil. http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/ Get off ass no more crude oil leaks!!!
jimgraham Champion Author Akron Posts:5,326 Points:1,004,855 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:00:37 PM Ignore jimgraham Report Abuse I don't see how they could lose that much oil without knowing it. Do they not have any idea how much oil they are moving? How do they charge someone for the oil if they don't know how much was shipped and how much was delivered. Sounds like this company needs to be put out of existence - and all its stockholders and executives need to be banned from the oil business - or as far as that goes, banned from any business at all....
tgolf All-Star Author Washington Posts:737 Points:156,865 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 11:00:29 PM Ignore tgolf Report Abuse new oil 'pond'
nstrdnvstr Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:29,514 Points:3,015,735 Joined:May 2001	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 10:54:18 PM Ignore nstrdnvstr Report Abuse VTROCKS, Shhhh!!! Don't give him any ideas!
donzo00 Champion Author Nevada Posts:4,136 Points:674,670 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 10:53:11 PM Ignore donzo00 Report Abuse not good, hire BP
Saturn93 Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:4,230 Points:1,012,815 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 10:51:44 PM Ignore Saturn93 Report Abuse It's up to the pipeline0 owners and shippers to make sure their equipment is well maintained and that all spills are quickly cleaned up.
Sody33 Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:13,080 Points:1,504,800 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 10:43:28 PM Ignore Sody33 Report Abuse The country is in an oil pincer just now.
Vette1967 Champion Author Albany Posts:1,396 Points:329,160 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 10:42:01 PM Ignore Vette1967 Report Abuse What a mess. Where's the next spill going to be?
NOTSOGRN Veteran Author Michigan Posts:315 Points:608,755 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 10:41:21 PM Ignore NOTSOGRN Report Abuse Where's Bobby Jindal Michigan needs him NOW! [Edited by: NOTSOGRN at 7/30/2010 1:43:22 AM EST]
REKEY Champion Author South Carolina Posts:3,637 Points:728,500 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 10:39:42 PM Ignore REKEY Report Abuse Who is spilling all this oil?
danreino Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,791 Points:676,170 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 10:33:00 PM Ignore danreino Report Abuse Well I guess that Obama shouldn't have spilled the oil, but he did.